The opening statements are alright, however zack and joey made much better points in theirs
The crossfire was once again better with Joey and Zack as they pointed out many flaws in Grants and Simons argument.
The rebuttal was won by zack and joey as well since they showed the flaws with grant and simon as well as made good points of their own.
The closing remarks were about the same for both with neither being better.
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